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  1. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:35PM UTC

    If my daughter got pregnant at 15, I would be depressed too. Hımm, so, drunk/drug induced one night stand with a stranger. How to ruin your life 101. Was she a party girl back then? Don't tell me she used to be close with Cersei.

    Wait, so basically, a 23 year old Rhaegar fcked a high schooler. Way to go Rhaegar boy, I am sure papa is proud. He is a mobster alright. Does he have other children from other women (except Aegon-Rhaenys from Elia)? Because if he is shagging up all the way down to high schoolers, I am guessing he has a pretty vast appetite.

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    1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:38PM UTC

      solitariusvirtus

      No. While it did happen at a party, Lyanna was clear-headed and a willing participant. However, keep in mind that no guy will actually go aroud requesting the I.D. of the girl he's about to sleep with. It's just not done.

      Not really. She and Cersei tolerated each other, but they weren't friends.

      Again, how would he know her age? Would he magically read her mind? No. And no. Is this one of those common misconceptions that if a man cheats once he must have done it a thousand times before?

      Because that line of thinking is...just wrong.

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      1. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:50PM UTC

        I just assumed he knew. Well, that's better. Also, if you think asking ID is going to save you, I have more bad news: People use fake IDs, and when the cops come they charge you all the same and you get registered as a sex offender and go to jail. Yep, being lied to is a crime now. You should have had a mystic third eye!

        Not really about cheating. For a second there, I assumed he knew she was 15, and from that point onward I went as "he has no problem sleeping around with minors, he is a mobster so he isn't desperate either, so he must have just not care at all. If he doesn't care, why stop at one? He must have had hundreds of women." See, this is why "running wild with an idea" is damaging in judging people.

         

        And now I want to read about that party.

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        1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:53PM UTC

          solitariusvirtus

          Yay! And do you know whose fault this is? Sometimes...

          Well, now you know the truth. Lol. Sometimes marriages are not happy. And cheating happens.

          That's it then. Sort-of-flashback next chapter.

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      3. Mg (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 08:01PM UTC

        Hey Ryuujin. I'm not sure I share your idea that getting pregnant at 15 is a 101 way to ruin your life. It complicates your life but ruin it... Cersei achieve it without a child being involve.

        The way I see it, a teenage pregnancy is complicated because of health & mental development issues, but it doesn't ruin your life.

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        1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 08:05PM UTC

          solitariusvirtus

          Mg, just in case Ryuu takes a bit to come back, I suggest looking up gypsies. Teenage pregnancy certainly ruins nothing for them.

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        2. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 08:31PM UTC

          heh? perhaps I am biased because of the examples I saw in my life, usually that is a one way ticket to personal hell. They leave school, they have no jobs, usually never get around to build a life and either become an additional burden in the household or get into a patched up marriage which neither party actually wants and run to divorce anyway. Not to mention alcoholism and other substance abuse they get into due to depression and pressure. Children also grow up as a mess. It is overall bad for everyone involved. Only if their family is rich/well off and able to build a life for them do things get somewhat resolved. The only decent examples I saw had the girl sent to another relative in another city to finish at least high school while the baby was left with grandparents who raised the kid without the mother.

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          1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 08:36PM UTC

            solitariusvirtus

            I would argue it's not the case. There was a prominent case in my country about an athlete who had a baby in high school. Her family had what is relatively low income and the baby put a crimp in her career. Despite that, they kept her through school and she's in uni with me.

            I think it's more about the type of person you are and the people you surround yourself with.

            Last Edited Mon 04 Jan 2016 08:42AM UTC

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          2. Mg (Guest) on Chapter 1 Mon 04 Jan 2016 03:52AM UTC

            I get your point but I agree with solitariusvirtus it depends on what type of person you are and the people that are around you. I would add that in no way your family has to be rich to be supportive... As a teenager my father told me that in no way would he be angry at me for getting pregnant and warned me that he would be upset if I became pregnant and decided to get an abortion (getting an abortion is illegal in my country and he made the commentary after a really upsetting case in our hometown). While I wasn't sexually active at the time, it gave me some confidence to come forward about other dificulties I had at the time. My family is not rich, I don't believe to be even middle class, but if I had gotten pregnant I'm sure my parents would had allowed me to keep the baby and continue supporting my aspirations.

            I see your point in the cases you mentioned and I have seen them but I believe that when we say that getting pregnant as a teenager is a 101 way to ruin your life, we are making excuses for them not to continue persuing their aspirations after a pregnancy and that is a recipe for bitterness and failure.

            Love the issue you are portraying in this story solitariusvirtus, it is a story I wish I had read as a teenager.

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            1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Mon 04 Jan 2016 08:39AM UTC

              solitariusvirtus

              Wow! My parents told me the exactly same thing, although in my country abortion is legal.

              Thank you. ^^

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