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  1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 06:15PM UTC

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    Is Hilton that bad?

    Actually, she and Lya were almost sisters here, so...

    Honestly, it makes sense with Tywin as the father.

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    1. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 06:21PM UTC

      Tywin is a shit father. Here I said it. He is the epitome of paternal negligence. But here, I guess he remarried Lyarra after Rickard and Joanna died. So fault is shared. I wonder what does he think about his wife's daughter having a child out of wedlock. Because if Cersei's addictions is a new discovery for them, Lyanna could have been the "black sheep/disgrace of the family" for a few years.

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      1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 06:25PM UTC

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        Lol. Read Lyann's phone convo. Rickard's still alive. The things is, Lyanna's parents split up when she was in her teens. So Lyarra had, erm, a relationship with Tywin that ended up not lasting. (Because let's face it, divorcees have a hard time of getting remarried.)

        Cersei's addiction surfaced when she was in her mid-twenties. (About a year or two previous to the "present".)

        Tywin didn't really care about Lyanna and never considered her family.

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        1. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 06:35PM UTC

          I completely forgot about the part where Lyanna almost had a car crash trying to talk to Rickard. lol

          Now that I think about it, how is Rhaella doing in this world. Did she and Aerys divorce too? Or is she sticking with that nightmare of marriage due to fear here too?

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          1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 06:39PM UTC

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            If you look at the tags, somewhere there you'll see crime family. Since the Lannisters are not it. And the Starks aren't either. That leaves you with the Targs.

            I wouldn't leave crazy la familia patriarch if I were her. Especially not when her ties to the family as strong as they are. So she is with Aerys, but here he is rather the Robert De Niro type from "The Family", than abusive crazy type.

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            1. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 06:54PM UTC

              I don't read tags, perhaps I should.

              Aaand I see you gave up writing them at the end. lol These tags are all messed up yo! :D

              Woah. So Targaryens are a crime family. Does this make Rhaegar a Michael Corleone? Now that I think about it, Michael Corleone's son was an opera singer, he chose that career despite his father's wishes and drop from law school. Hımm. Wait! Is sibling incest legal here? When I think of Aerys as mafia, I think of Semyon from Eastern Promises. And in fact, Viserys reminds me of his son Kirill.

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              1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 06:59PM UTC

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                The legal system is a bit different from ours. They still allow brother-sister incest, but only for families of Valyrian descent, since those would have had these customs of old. For other Westerosi families, it's allowed to marry cousins. (Which is actually allowed, with some restrictions, even in our own modern society.)

                Opera singer Rhaegar. :)) Don't give me ideas. He's in the family business, his musical talents are not really something he goes around bragging about, but naturally some people do know about it.

                Oh well, I don't know that reference. I hope that's good.

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                1. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:07PM UTC

                  It is a pretty solid movie, you should watch it sometime.

                  Wait, wait, wait. Lyanna didn't have an affair with a client did she? Oh God. Worse, she had an affair with the heir of crime family. And didn't tell him he has a kid. Yep, that's Lyanna alright. Brave and stupid. More stupid than brave. What does Rickard and Lyarra think of Jon. Do they blame each other for their daughter's choices in life.

                  Also, is Rickard a prosecutor.

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                  1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:12PM UTC

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                    I'll check it out. :)

                    No. Lyanna was 15 when she...you know...and 16 when Jon was born. She didn't tell Rhaegar because she had no idea who the hell he was. Not a clue. Definitely stupid. But at least she faced the consequences.

                    Rickard was naturally angry at first, but to my mind, he'd be both protective and supportive of his girl. So his answer was "Whatever you decide. Lya.". The mother's another story.

                    By that point Lyarra would have already divorced Rickard. For what she perceived to be Lyanna's own good, her advice was to get rid of the baby. But after he was born, she learned to live with it.

                    Yes, they do.

                    He was. But he's not working/taking cases anymore after suffering an episode of depression.

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                    1. Ryuujin (Guest) on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:35PM UTC

                      If my daughter got pregnant at 15, I would be depressed too. Hımm, so, drunk/drug induced one night stand with a stranger. How to ruin your life 101. Was she a party girl back then? Don't tell me she used to be close with Cersei.

                      Wait, so basically, a 23 year old Rhaegar fcked a high schooler. Way to go Rhaegar boy, I am sure papa is proud. He is a mobster alright. Does he have other children from other women (except Aegon-Rhaenys from Elia)? Because if he is shagging up all the way down to high schoolers, I am guessing he has a pretty vast appetite.

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                      1. solitariusvirtus on Chapter 1 Sun 03 Jan 2016 07:38PM UTC

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                        No. While it did happen at a party, Lyanna was clear-headed and a willing participant. However, keep in mind that no guy will actually go aroud requesting the I.D. of the girl he's about to sleep with. It's just not done.

                        Not really. She and Cersei tolerated each other, but they weren't friends.

                        Again, how would he know her age? Would he magically read her mind? No. And no. Is this one of those common misconceptions that if a man cheats once he must have done it a thousand times before?

                        Because that line of thinking is...just wrong.

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